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cowboydoug



Joined: 21 Jun 2008
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Location: ST. George, Utah

Post Grip Replacement made simple Reply with quote
Howdy gang... I was given a little tutorial on the removal of old grips
from Matty-X... a great description of how to do it...

I however have taken it a step further with a new way to remove
old grips and how I installed my new ones.
I hope my pix and ideas help anyone attempting to do this.

I appreciate any feedback... as I am going to do a few more
pictorials of other projects as needs present themselves.




These WERE the tools I was going to use to remove the old grips.






MY required tools for grip removal was much simplified by this TOOL selection... haha






I fussed with the other tools for a bit trying to keep the old grips intact but
then I thought to myself...
SELF...
..."you don't want the old nasty grips anyway"....
So it was... Dr. Cowboydoug to surgery ...STAT !
Sorry... no survivors...
I will say... the stock grips are built like tanks...
You gotta love our Eastern Indian friends, they make good stuff.






I used sport fabric tape as a spacer...
For me it was three sections of tape to
cover the grips... and because my grips
were 27mm I had to make 8 complete
wraps to get to the correct thickness for the new grips.

I decided to use Gorilla Glue to secure the new grips to
the tape and bars, knowing once the glue had set it
would NEVER TWIST.
Gorilla glue is activated by water...
So I lightly sprayed the grips with water.
They don't have to be soaked... just damp.
But it is very important to do this.
Notice the little bit of space between the end of the
tape and the headset...IMPORTANT... leave a little room,
1/8th-1/4" room should do it... or if you're metric... 3 or 4 mm.






Gorilla glue may be over kill... and you can bet if you want to get these
grips off you will have to cut them off... but... they are guaranteed not
to slip on you...EVER....





...Notice the glue...
It is very very...VERY THIN... Thinner than it looks...

Be sure to twist the grip on in the same direction as you rolled the tape on.
This way it won't unroll or bunch up on you.






I used a 1" paint brush after cutting the bristles almost completely off to
spread the glue as thin as possible...
The glue is much thinner than appears in pix. The glue may look thick in this
view but I assure you... it is THIN... make sure you do yours thin too,
otherwise you will have one heck of a mess.
...If you look closely at the top of the grip you can see the glue building up,
this is where I used the cut back paint brush to wipe away excess glue while
I was TWISTING the grips on...The brush really comes in handy to remove this excess.






In this last step I used the all important Popsicle stick...
Use it to after the glue has had a few minutes to excrete from inside the grip.
Use the Popsicle stick to make sure no glue locks your grip to the headset and
prevents your grips from twisting the throttle or shifter.
This is an important step... no matter what glue you use.






The end result.... FAST... real FAST and it's just sitting still...

I Hope this helps anyone who wants to update their grips...
It was fun... If you have all the tools... glue, tape & grips it will take you
30 minutes.

But here is the best part...
You now can take a step back and go... Oh yeah... there she is... she's my Betty...

If you would like to work with me on any other Mods I would be happy to
do the pix and or the writing of these "How To" essays.


Oh and now one last foto... I just did the headlight ring and have a pictorial
of that as well...
Thanks for looking...
and please... give me your feedback


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Rabid_Wombat



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Cowboydoug - Nicely done! I think you will need that red seat now Smile thanks for posting. I would like to redo my grips at some point. With my bicycles, I have always just sprayed w/ hairspray and slid on, but you don't have to turn bicycle grips like you do w/ a scooter.

I also play golf and was thinking about using 2-sided golf grip tape. We have traditionally used lighter fluid on that tape or solvent.

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cowboydoug



Joined: 21 Jun 2008
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Location: ST. George, Utah

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Thanks...

Yeah... I knew there was probably other/better tapes to use... I was impatient after
removing my old grips and finding my new grips were quite a bit larger than
the bars... the fact I couldn't jump on my scoot and go was driving me nuttso...
and believe me... that's already a short drive...hehe Shocked
So I grabbed the first thing (tape) I could get my hands on and went for it.
I normally would have used rubber cement to have glued the grips on... which
is what Bajaj used. But because my new grips were 27mm I wanted to make
certain there would be no slippage.
You should see the way I tape a box for shipping... 4 or 5 passes with the tape...haha Laughing

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HiHoSilVeR



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Post Question about materials for grip installation Reply with quote
cowboydoug wrote:
Thanks...

Yeah... I knew there was probably other/better tapes to use... I was impatient after
removing my old grips and finding my new grips were quite a bit larger than
the bars... the fact I couldn't jump on my scoot and go was driving me nuttso...
and believe me... that's already a short drive...hehe Shocked
So I grabbed the first thing (tape) I could get my hands on and went for it.
I normally would have used rubber cement to have glued the grips on... which
is what Bajaj used. But because my new grips were 27mm I wanted to make
certain there would be no slippage.
You should see the way I tape a box for shipping... 4 or 5 passes with the tape...haha Laughing


Cowoydoug,
I just bought some grips almost identical to yours, except mine are white with black trim. Your method of installation seems pretty easy to follow. You said you would have used other tape if you had it. Would golf grip tape work better or what would be the best tape to use? Also, you said rubber cement would be a good glue to use, as Bajaj used it on the stock grips. Would you recommend me using golf grip tape and rubber cement? If so, how many times around do you think would be good? Your tape wrapped around 8 times, as I recall.
Thanks,
~Hihosilver
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matty_x



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Post Re: Question about materials for grip installation Reply with quote
HiHoSilVeR wrote:

Would golf grip tape work better or what would be the best tape to use? Also, you said rubber cement would be a good glue to use, as Bajaj used it on the stock grips. Would you recommend me using golf grip tape and rubber cement? If so, how many times around do you think would be good?


You could use hockey stick tape, duct tape... all you're trying to do is increase the diameter of the throttle and shifting tubes so that the grips will fit more snugly. I personally use electrical tape because if I plan to remove the grips in the future, it is easier with electrical tape due to it being a little slick and hard.

For an adhesive, a lot of people swear by hair spray. I use hair spray myself and it works great. It doesn't seem to get affected by the weather and it's not too difficult to remove a grip that has been hair sprayed on.

If you use golf tape and rubber cement, those grips will stay on for life. But you'll never be able to get them off short of cutting them off.

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Aggroton



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thats great!
thoe grips are tits.
i have the black ones. so nice on longer rides.
anyone do a how to on installing vespa style seats?

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cowboydoug



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Location: ST. George, Utah

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Aggroton wrote:
thats great!
thoe grips are tits.
i have the black ones. so nice on longer rides.
anyone do a how to on installing vespa style seats?



MY limited experience on installing vespa seats is to.... BOLT IT ON.... Shocked Laughing

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Aggroton



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that easy huh?

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I have MotoStrada's left over stock.
If you need anything please let me know.
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HiHoSilVeR



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Post Re: Question about materials for grip installation Reply with quote
OK. I just got home from Sportsmart with some black tennis racket grip tape. The brand is Gamma Guard. So there's still a few questions in my mind before I cut the old ones off:

(1) Is there anything on or near the left or right handles that I need to watch out for when I cut into the old grips? (for example, cables or wires, etc.) Or can I boldly cut into the old grip material with no worries of what's underneath?
(2) What brand of hairspray is best for the job? I don't want my grips bursting into flames like Michael Jackson's hair.
(3) By rubber cement, do you mean the kind like from an office supply store, or the kind that is Super Glue brand?
(4) Should the grips be tight as can be to the point that I need to whack them with a mallet?
That's all the questions I have to ask right now.

Thanks,
~Hihosilver
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rufusswan



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(1) Nope there is nothing on the handles themselves to worry about.
(2) Hairspray is hairspray, go cheap.
(3) With hairspray you don't need rubber cement, but any brand would contains the words 'rubber cement'.
(4) Spray a handle and push them on ASAP before the hairspray dries, and it dries fast. I always feel more comfortable having a whacking tool at hand for handgrips, and for a lot of other stuff too Confused

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rufusswan wrote:
I always feel more comfortable having a whacking tool...



if i could only find a way to use that quote in more conversations...

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HiHoSilVeR



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rufusswan wrote:
(1) Nope there is nothing on the handles themselves to worry about.
(2) Hairspray is hairspray, go cheap.
(3) With hairspray you don't need rubber cement, but any brand would contains the words 'rubber cement'.
(4) Spray a handle and push them on ASAP before the hairspray dries, and it dries fast. I always feel more comfortable having a whacking tool at hand for handgrips, and for a lot of other stuff too Confused


Alright. I'm gonna do it right now. Just picked up the grips from the P.O., and they're awesome.
Thanks, Rufus!
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kcbluesbbq



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What size custom grips should I be looking for?
I want something a little more sporty for my new-to-me black Chetak.
Maybe something with chrome?
I just wondered if there was a standard size to shop for, then make them fit as shown above....

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PDX Kyle



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I think they're pretty standard, as far as diameter size goes. (between 1" and 1 1/2"?) You can use tape or whatever as a shim to make the bars bigger, which you'll almost certainly need to do. I just put some new grips on my scoot, and it was very quick and easy. (and I like them a lot more by the way--those stock grips in the hot weather on bare hands get mighty sweaty and slick, mighty quick)

These are the ones I got--(be forwarned, they say 'with chrome', but it's really chrome flavored plastic)

http://www.scooterworks.com/Grips_Foamy_with_Chrome_P3726.cfm

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