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paraasari



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Post Much coolness Reply with quote
Isn't it one of the glorious idiosyncratic coolnesses of this world that a spunkly lil' Chetak ends up in the Ozarks?

Anyway, that camera shake - may be the mint juleps ;)

Will wait patiently. Sorry, just the marketing slag in me poking through Twisted Evil

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Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:14 am View user's profile Send private message
rufusswan



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Post I survived "pixel trance" Reply with quote
paraasari wrote:
Isn't it one of the glorious idiosyncratic coolnesses of this world that a spunkly lil' Chetak ends up in the Ozarks?

Yea, even cooler that it was sold by Columbia Scooters. I guess it's headed for the east coast Confused

Ok, yesterday was a perfect day. Great weather. John and his GF had gotten back from Florida and he called with an invite to dinner. Fresh from the garden purple-hulled peas and ham, sweet corn, tomatoes, and cornbread. (baked and fried). I still can't beat him a darts. And what, pray tell does this have to do with scoot/maint/vids Question

It seems that the week prior was lost to a "pixel trance". Just like the "bit trance" us old programmers had to endure....

The only way to preserve the thin veneer of sanity I had was to set a deadline to finish (something), and meet the target. Sunday was a long day and the night even longer. My baby mac screamed in agony but it finally rendered 48 minutes of video and burned it onto my last two empty DVD platters. They went in the mail yesterday. I went home drunk with success, tore open a 12-pack, and the phone rang. The rest is history.

I peered over the brink - stared into the abyss - and survived. Is it what I envisioned? No, but that is not the point really. I started something new for me, and finished. Good, bad, or ugly ... I finished. I'll worry about the highly moral and ethical concepts of "getting better" and "improving" later, they are not goals anyway, they are a process. I published "Behind the Cowls - Battery Side". A DVD will hold 2 hours (mas y menos) so it will get bigger as other stuff is added. $1.30 for the mailer + cost of platter ($1?) + $1.50 postage = $3.80 sends a DVD anywhere in the lower 48.

Is it worth that? I don't know. It does contain 2:27 of ScoottaaCam (filmed in BuddhaVision), which I love. There's gonna be a lot more of that I can assure you as soon as I replace the Red Green (Rube Goldberg) device I used. Don't wanna drop a $300 device on the pavement will rippin' the BuddhaPest around a hairpin. So, I'll think about a new device this evening.

Right now I have my vest on, ice cubes cooling 3 beers in my fanny pack, 7'6" inches of lean mean fighting machine loaded with #4 (floating) and my "Sneak Pete's" (1/8 oz. floating). The creek is only 50 feet away (down). Yes, it's dangerous stalking the 'smallie'. But on occassion you have to face that danger. If you survive you might get a blessing.

The sound of one hand clapping cannot be distinguished from the sound of a fly line settling on the water.

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SmittyScoots



Joined: 30 Jul 2008
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Location: Portland, OR

Post I'd buy that for a crisp Lincoln Reply with quote
Sounds good to me. When you get around to it, drop me a line about where to send it off to.

Thanks,
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Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:28 am View user's profile Send private message
cowboydoug



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Location: ST. George, Utah

Post Re: 5. How to replace a (clutch/gear/brake) cable Reply with quote
rufusswan wrote:
cowboydoug wrote:
Add ADJUSTING .....(clutch/gear/brake) cable

I agree here with the following caveat. Some adjustments are objective, and some are subjective. Take your valves. They can be obj. measured with a set of feeler gauges. When you check them and determine they are out of adjustment, then you do the job. During the process you notice that the .004 feeler is extremely "snug" ... that snugness is subjective and filming it does no good. I can show you how to adjust your front brake and 'play' in the brake lever, but I cannot film the "feel" of the brake lever. Same with clutch and shifter cables, soon that subjective "feeling" comes into play.

That's why it's nice to have a maintenance buddy especially when they have a similar scoot. You have two people and two machines to make subjective comparisons.


Paz...
what I meant & what I believe would be helpful to others is, simply showing what cable is what... and the basics of cable adjustment... (Undo this...pull it like this... position it like this)... yadda yadda yadda... Perhaps a tutorial and an explanation on what to FEEL for when making these adjustments...

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rufusswan



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I set out this morning to change the oil, talk about spark plugs, and check my valve clearances before a little trip I was going to make this weekend.

To check valve clearances you have to have the piston at TopDeadCenter (at least pretty close). One way to "see" this is to put a pencil in the spark plug hole and set it on the top of the piston. Then you can slowly turn the rear wheel, watch the pencil, and it's easy to see TDC. You just have to be careful sticking something like that thru the spark plug hole cause you can wedge it against the hole and break it. which is exactly what I did. Evil or Very Mad

So, unless there is a miracle idea out there that will remove 1" of #2 pencil WITHOUT me having to drop the engine and pull the heads ..... [I didn't think so] Mad

For the curious, yes I'm pretty sure I caught the "crack" of the pencil on tape. I'm sure that I will also remove all the "sailor talk" that followed.

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cowboyrob



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Oh shit rufus! I'm sorry man.

Have you considered trying one of those little parts grabbers? they are very much like the magnet ones but they have a flexible coil spring intead of a telescopic antenna barrel, and instead of a magnet they have a little set of "jaws" the extend when you push a thumb-plunger and retract when you release the button. May not help at all, just a suggestion!

Good luck, keep us updated-

Rob

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Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:40 pm View user's profile Send private message
rufusswan



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I thought that would be real handy, and might work, but I don't have one. I think the fact that I only got 2 beers in the frig might sway my decisions. I'll stop in at O'Reilly and pick one up and give it try.

I also have some really sticky leather glue and considered making something, but I have no idea how much of that glue I'd leave on the cylinders walls, nor what it might turn into once I fired her up.

If the HULK came by, I'd just have him pick up the scoot, turn it over and shake it out.

I am getting some truly "authentic" video out of this though Wink Gotta look at the bright of things I guess.

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Threegoofs



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How about a shop vac - you can attach it to a funnel and see if you can suck that sucka out.
Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:39 pm View user's profile Send private message
cowboyrob



Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Post Reply with quote
rufusswan wrote:


If the HULK came by, I'd just have him pick up the scoot, turn it over and shake it out.



Rufus, that made me think of something. It really is not that hard to pull your engine. It is basically two bolts. You really do need two people though- just to lift the scooter off when you have the bolts out and guide it back on when you put it back in. I am not saying haul off and do this right away, but if you think it might work to get it out if the other stuff don't, it isn't real hard. It does make you disconnect all the cables and the carb, so you are forced to do a tune up on your scooter. A how to is in the download manual. I would try the grabber first, not SO sure about the glue in the cylinder thing but hey, we all do what we gotta do! Very Happy

Rob[/i]

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Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:14 pm View user's profile Send private message
rufusswan



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Threegoofs wrote:
How about a shop vac - you can attach it to a funnel and see if you can suck that sucka out.


Tried that one first, and I have one of those attachment kits for sucking up stuff in electronic equipment, and some stock tubing. By the time you get it into the chamber it can't suck enough air from outside to suck very hard.

I got a parts grabber with like a tiny monkey paw on the end and beer and a burger.

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cowboyrob



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rufusswan wrote:
beer and a burger.


Red meat and american mega-swill, nothin' like it in the whole world.

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Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:09 pm View user's profile Send private message
rufusswan



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It seems a shame that such a small thing has screwed things up so royally. The piston is at TDC so the pencil hunk can't be more than 2" from the light of day, but that is one damned long 2".

I've run some tests with the glue and don't think it will work. End of that. The monkey paw will not work at TDC cause the 2" includes a 90' bend. I could move the piston to BDC, but would only end up scoring the cylinder walls. End of that.

So I am dropping the engine and will get the neighbor to assist in getting the swing arm re-installed when done. As Rob said, dropping it is really not hard, and comprises mostly screwing with stuff I was gonna screw with anyway to shoot more vids. Pulling the head should be simple once the cam chain is released. I got everything disconnected before the rain came except the swing arm itself, so if things go well the Buddha will be running by noon. Pages 23-24 in the Legend service manual. If anyone has any questions while this is happening let me know and I'll be sure to take some shots.

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Rabid_Wombat



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release termites into the chamber - they will eat the pencil and then you can burn them off with a rev of your engine, afterwards Smile

OK that is not funny, and I feel partly responsible for being an immediate video customer once completed.

Wife, kids and I are racking our brains about this one! Sorry!

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Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:33 am View user's profile Send private message
matty_x



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I'm cussing for you on this one and you know why. Pmd you already but for the sake of others I suggest using ticky tack on the end of a screwdriver. Also don't worry too much about scoring your cylinder walls with wood. It's not gonna mess up hardened steel. Finally, use a soda straw next time!

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Threegoofs



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How about flushing it with gasoline and/or oil and trying to float it out?
Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:45 am View user's profile Send private message
rufusswan



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The termite thing was both funny and would work but I lack termites.

Now the "float it out" option that 3goof suggests has the proper ring of hillbilly ingenuity that I like. Also, rotating the engine where the intake valve is open might provide enough air for the vacuum to work also. I'll give these and some ticky-tack another go while I wait for things to dry out. Rained all night again.

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rufusswan



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Post 4 brains are better than one Reply with quote
My fear was that I had one complete giant hunk of pencil in the cylinder that would hole the piston. I didn't consider that when it broke it would break into pieces, so ....

I try the tick-tack and the monkey paw, no workee but the tack does retrieve some big hunks of the pencil lead. I rotate the flywheel to the intake stroke, pour gas into intake manifold and nothing floats out.

Then I stroke the kick start a couple of times. I'm getting some 'action' with that. Fill cylinder with gas again and whang the kick start again, more 'action'. Check the ground underneath the exhaust manifold (muffler is removed) and there sits one loogey of tick-tack wound around hunks of wood and pencil paint. Problem solved.

If 3goofs hadn't made the suggestion I don't think I would of thought of it. Sheer genius.

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matty_x



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So....

Does this mean I'll see ya at the ranch this weekend?

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Threegoofs



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Post Re: 4 brains are better than one Reply with quote
rufusswan wrote:


If 3goofs hadn't made the suggestion I don't think I would of thought of it. Sheer genius.


I dont think it qualifies as genius. It just comes from my natural ability to avoid doing anything involving a wrench.

This coming from a guy who is actually going to bring his bike into a shop to change out
the tires because I dont have a jack. I can change the oil, but thats about it.

Thats why I need the video!!!


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Rabid_Wombat



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Awesome - glad to hear the pencil is out - nice work 3goofs and Paz! Wondering if an oil change is needed now in case gas leaked into the oil past the rings?

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rufusswan



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I had just drained the oil prior to the pencildent. I did get more stuff out of it after dousing it with gas, so it will leak around the rings and into the oil pan.

She just got back from a 40 mile shakedown cruise. I think she's going on a long ride this weekend.

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pantsyell



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hello people, im new to this post. my question to you is... how do you adjust the idle on a 2 stroke bajaj? i found a very good post on this site about adjusting a 4 stroke (complete with clear pic!) anyone know? also... anyone in the Boston area curentling riding around on a bajaj? if so drop me a line. thank you and very nice to be a part of this site. Shocked
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nicklecityscoot



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Rufusswan,

I think the matty_x comprehensive list is perfect. I bought a Chetak 6 days ago and he nailed everything that has been going through my head.
Especially the second section. Valves are a must. I understand what you are saying about feel on adjustments, but I think a quick disclaimer would put everyone on the same page. If anyone that watches these vids and still feels iffy about the mechanics: Don't do it, use it as informational ammo at the shop as you said.

Halogen painters lights are wicked cheap and work great as fill lighting. Place one on the ground pointed up, and elevate one and point it down and you should be able to eradicate 99% of shadows. They run hot but they're so bright you can push back a good distance and still have great lighting.
You should be able to pick up a pair for 20 bucks at your local building supply joint.

Laser point is a great idea, plus can't you add all kinds of arrows and other assorted effects during production on those apple machines?

I thank you ahead for your time and energy, totally awesome idea. Chetak Army Guerrilla movement.
I wonder what it would cost to BUY the retired Chetak tooling and machinery from Bajaj? With gas supplies dwindling I would think that producing the same reliable scooters that take the exact same parts for years and years would be a winning proposition. Coupled with how to's on all possible maintenance procedures sounds like a dream.

I applaud you. I wish I lived closer I would help any way I could. I think I speak for most people who view this thread when I say: Please let us know where we can view these, or post the appropriate links as soon as possible!

Thanks!

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rufusswan



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Nickel,

Actually have more trouble with too bright sunlight, I got a couple of floods for spot lighting. The big issue is not having a proper place to work, meaning .. A) inside where I can work regardless of weather B) a place to stay organized C) plain old comfort and ambiance D) permanent storage for the scoot.

Announcing ... [b]ScootaaShack![/b Cool

Seven primary support poles are installed, plumbed and squared. The last of the flooring foundation is being poured today, and rafters should go up this weekend. About 1/2 is ride into garage the rest is workshop, storage, and beer drinking lounge area. I'll post up the first construction pics this weekend.

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alexiis



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Eagerly anticipating the release of
How to change a tire
and
How to replace your Battery
and best of all ...
How to gap our spark plug and why this even matters!

Thank you For even thinking of doing this for our elite community of unique scooters. I feel pretty special and not in the short bus way!

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