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matty_x



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Nice one Tom. I do the same.

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Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:50 pm View user's profile Send private message
Plotts



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Here are a few tips for Y'all.

Leave the clutch out! In most stopping situations and especially in emergency stopping situations, leave your clutch out (engaged) as long as possible (till almost a complete stop) which gear doesn't matter. This is what we teach at our motorcycle school Ride Chicago. This has a lot to do with a chain on motorcycles but it certainly applies to scooters too. Basically by leaving the clutch out you are allowing the engine to help slow you down, but more importantly it is harder to lock up the rear brake with the clutch out, not impossible, but harder. Try it sometime in a controlled environment. Brake smoothly but strongly with both brakes with the clutch in, then repeat leaving the clutch out as long as possible, also look at the difference in stopping distances. This even works amazingly on bikes with ABS. All of our students (in our advanced class where they ride their own bikes) will stop much shorter on an ABS equipped bike using this method than without.

Also the same is true while cornering. While you are turning or leaned over you should always have the clutch engaged, I sometimes shift quickly on the scoot when leaned over, but realize that interrupting the transfer of power to the rear wheel at anytime can lead to instability, especially at a lean. It is a little different on a scooter than motorcycle but once again the concept is the same. You are keeping the engine engaged which is always better than coasting.


Another note on braking. Always initiate braking pressure smoothly and slowly at first, increasing pressure on the lever as the weight moves forward and the suspension compresses. On a motorcycle your front brake is about 80% of your stopping power. On these scooters it is a little different because you have so much weight over the rear wheel (not like a motorcycle at all there), but always use both brakes when stopping and I still use more front than rear on the scoot. Never "grab" at the brakes. Practice and know how to "stop short" or use you maximum braking potential before you are in the situation where you absolutely need it. If you lock either tire up, release the lever and reapply pressure smoothly.

Also look where you want to go, look up and ahead, as far ahead as is reasonable. Even in an emergency stopping scenario, there is no use looking at the ground a few feet in front of you, keep you eyes up and look where you want to go. If you are looking down, sometimes you might end up there! I see it all of the time with newbs at school.
Sun May 24, 2009 12:50 am View user's profile Send private message
jsim



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Also look where you want to go, look up and ahead, as far ahead as is reasonable. Even in an emergency stopping scenario, there is no use looking at the ground a few feet in front of you, keep you eyes up and look where you want to go. If you are looking down, sometimes you might end up there! I see it all of the time with newbs at school.


This is by far the best thing I learned in motorcycle safety class. Look to where you want to end up when going through a corner.

Also, take the class! Even if you think you know what you are doing (I had already put about 500 miles on my scoot before going), you will learn a lot! Having someone watch me ride and tell me how to ride better was invaluable.
Tue May 26, 2009 4:49 pm View user's profile Send private message
hariharan



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Matt G wrote:
When riding with a passenger and stopping on a hill: always lean more to the left than you think you have to. Otherwise a little bit of weight shift by the passenger (even if you've told them not to) could make you lose your balance and put your right foot down.

Why is this a big deal? Because the front brake alone isn't strong enough to hold two people and the scooter. So you'll roll backwards (accelerating quickly) and be unable to stop. Because your right foot is on the ground keeping you from falling over, you won't be able to move it to the brake pedal.

Yes, I have learned this the hard way.


True

I agree with that.
Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:22 pm View user's profile Send private message
dirkhunt



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Why is this a big deal? Because the front brake alone isn't strong enough to hold two people and the scooter. So you'll roll backwards (accelerating quickly) and be unable to stop. Because your right foot is on the ground keeping you from falling over, you won't be able to move it to the brake pedal.


This must be either a really steep hill or you need to adjust your brakes.

I thought you did it because your front brake is also your throttle hand and it is hard to hit the gas as you let go of the clutch (dont pop it 2 up facing up hill you will pop a wheelie.)

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Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:11 pm View user's profile Send private message
donarntz
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Yeah totally. My front brake holds fine.
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